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you for the next hour talk maybe hour
and a half talk about the open talk
about wadapalooza talk about the fittest
documentary that got released this week
And who knows what else we're going to
talk about.
We might even fight a little.
We might even scrap.
But at the end of the day,
we love each other.
Jamie's back.
I said this on my Friday show.
I swear Jamie called Carolyn and said,
hey, I'm going on vacation.
Don't let Scott get off Scott free this
week.
And Carolyn and I went toe-to-toe on
something that I put as an agenda item
tonight on this podcast.
And we're going to see who wins in
the end.
All right.
Because it actually morphed into more news
throughout the weekend.
And it's kind of wild.
So with all that, what's going on, guys?
We haven't seen Jamie in two weeks.
I know.
Has it been two weeks?
Well, you haven't seen me since, yeah,
two Sundays ago.
Yeah, yeah.
It's true.
Yeah.
So how was Florida?
It was good.
It was really good weather until the last
day.
And honestly,
not even until like seven or whatever,
like on our way to the airport,
it started just, the storms were so bad.
Um,
so I was delayed getting out of Florida.
I didn't get home till like,
I got home at two forty-five in the
morning.
So made for a long Friday,
Friday for the open at the gym, which,
and I knew going away, I was like,
it's going to be the worst possible
workout for a gym.
I just knew it was going to be.
And of course it's, it's got rings,
it's got the twenty foot section to be
taped off.
Um, yeah, just not,
not really what I wanted to come back
to, but.
um before we get the fergus question of
the week um when i moved to florida
i thought i had experienced thunderstorms
thunderstorms in florida are a whole
different animal it is like kicked up
twenty notches uh the lightning the way it
shoots across the sky is insanity
Yeah,
it hit like very close to our car
driving to the airport.
Like it scared my mom and I.
I was like, that was right there.
But yeah,
and like the road was like getting
flooded.
I mean, it was bad.
Ken says, well,
while you were on vacation,
Scott says he missed you.
And since he loves to argue and have
open discussions with you.
It's not exactly a direct quote.
I'll just say that.
I was able to watch some of your
noon shows,
which I never can because that's when I'm
coaching at the gym.
So it was nice to be able to
catch some of those.
I've been able to catch more of your
noon shows.
My second semester,
you do it basically at the same time
that I'm on lesson prep time.
So sometimes I'm listening to you as I'm
lifting or if I'm doing some schoolwork.
I saw you diving in there.
Yeah.
Making some comments.
One day.
Um, yeah, neutral has been fun this week.
Went off the rails a couple of times,
but that's what I love about that show.
Cause it just, we never know.
There's no, this one,
we have like a rundown the noon shows.
There's no rundown.
There's nothing.
Um, so for yes, Jamie,
would you rather drive across the country
in a car full of family members with
overactive bladders or do twenty six point
two on a grease pull up bar?
Oh,
Yeah, that's tough.
I mean,
I really hate being on slippery pull-up
bars.
And I don't mind stopping...
occasionally to like stretch a little i
like because of my hip and stuff in
my back it's sitting in the car for
a long time really bothers me but i
also don't like stopping like all the time
if i had ever i don't know that's
tough one because i feel like it's really
about the rings like you could sit there
and do quick singles on the pull-up bar
and and then get a like decent time
on if your rings go well so that's
a super tough question i i mean i'd
probably say
I mean,
that one's going to be over quicker.
So I'm probably the twenty six point two.
I don't really want to drive across the
country.
I was so bad when I was first
married to my wife.
We lived in Florida.
We would come home to Pennsylvania.
I told her she got one piece off
the state.
So choose wisely.
She.
Or about.
Right.
CrossFit says it's the way it's filmed,
but Carolyn looks like a small person
wearing a giant rugby shirt a la Talking
Heads.
Same as it ever was.
Same as it ever was.
Sorry.
That's for us old people who knew what
that song was.
Jenny says Texas gets at least two stops.
Thank goodness Texas was not between
Florida and Pennsylvania.
We had Georgia, South Carolina,
North Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia,
Pennsylvania.
None of those are too bad.
And Meredith says I'm harsh.
Harsh trip rules.
I am much more lenient now as my
bladder has gotten smaller.
So, yeah.
But I was young.
I was young and stupid back then.
You know how we are.
um so anyway uh what do you have
anything going on this weekend carolyn
This weekend?
No.
Helped out a lot.
Like at the gym for the open,
saw a lot of people's first pull-ups and
chest to bars.
It was so fun.
Like this one girl has been working the
whole year on getting her first pull-up.
She got twelve and like everyone was
jumping and people were crying.
And I was like, oh, this is amazing.
Just like cool moments in the open.
Yeah.
So we had a couple like that too.
A girl that had just gotten hers.
Maybe she had gotten her first pull up
probably three,
four weeks ago and she got all.
Nice.
Wow.
Yep.
I, uh,
before we get into full open talk,
I've been watching drive to survive and I
am, I'm completely addicted.
My wife was watching Bridgerton on her
own.
I'm watching drive to survive in mind.
And I think they both have the same
amount of drama.
And Drive to Survive is about the F-One
series seasons.
And it is crazy.
And last,
like maybe a week or two ago,
I won in a Lego forum,
I won a McLaren F-One car Lego.
And I'm putting that together and it is
so addictive because it has working motor
parts.
Like it is actually like really cool.
and uh but but the one thing i
have to i've got to get through the
series i'm on the next to last season
i'm gonna get a speeding ticket if i
don't stop watching the show like i cannot
stop gunning the gas coming out of the
back curves um
trying to overtake people on the four
lanes like i am it is it it
is actually ingrained in my mind now that
i must get past this car or i
i don't know it is so wild julie's
like i think i'm gonna die today when
we went to lunch oh no i'm a
i'm not a good passenger that would not
go well with me but we got there
quick okay if i was hungry i maybe
would let it slide
Uh,
CrossFit says next year is going to be
even better.
Lewis Hamilton and a Kardashian.
Which Kardashian?
I don't know.
And this is the thing,
like the first race was this weekend from
the twenty six season.
But I don't want to watch it till
I finish the series to get me caught
up because there's so much drama and so
many people switching companies and so
much this person hates this person.
And I don't want to get any of
that spoiled by watching the actual real
race until I'm done with the last.
So I'm in the twenty twenty four season.
and then i gotta get twenty five done
and then i can start watching this year
oh my gosh and they're only like they're
like forty minute episodes on netflix each
season's like eight or ten episodes okay
um but it is honest to god it
is a male soap opera it's it's like
love is blind for carolyn oh my gosh
It's just my version of it.
I do love Love is Blind.
That show, Aaron and I watch it,
but I swear over the last three,
four seasons, it has gone so downhill.
I haven't seen any of this season.
Yeah.
Andrew Sten said the race was wild.
What kills me is their teammates.
So every racing company has two cars.
Okay.
You will have two teammates fight each
other and wreck each other trying to get
ahead of them,
and then they lose all the points for
the team.
Oh, my gosh.
Because, like,
the one team are two kids that grew
up and have been competing since they were
six years old.
Yeah.
And everybody's like,
it's a mistake putting them on the same
team.
And there they are,
wrecking each other into the wall.
Yeah, that's awful.
that's frustrating.
Uh, Vicki agrees with, uh, Jamie.
I completely agree.
It's not the same as it was at
first, but Carolyn, if you like that,
you'll probably like married at first
sight too.
Have you seen married at first sight?
I feel like I've heard about it.
Maybe Lex has watched it before.
I typically watch a little bit like when
Lex watches a show,
I'll
start watching it maybe a little bit,
but honestly I don't,
I don't watch like much Netflix or shows
in general, like at all.
I'm like a live TV sports type person.
Andrew Sten says,
teammates eat strivers out for themselves
in the end.
Yeah, that's not good.
And Teresa Rochaford says,
sounds like Jason and Dallin.
It is very much like that.
It is very much like they'll hang out
and they'll play pickleball together and
do all this stuff.
And then when race day comes,
they are cutthroat.
There are a lot of like,
a lot of like parallels to this in
the CrossFit world.
A lot.
Which Kenneth says,
which one is the one with the pods?
That would be love.
Love is blind.
Yep.
Married at first sight.
They literally just,
the experts like talk to people.
I think I have seen it before.
They meet at the altar and they get
married.
Like there is not even talking like love
is blind.
Like they at least talk and then decide
they want to meet this person.
Love is blind is crazy.
You have to have so much trust in
the experts.
Yeah.
CrossFat says, I'm a huge Lando fan.
When he was bad and younger,
he was hilarious about his own wrecks.
Yeah.
So in the twenty four season,
Lando had never won a Formula One race
and he finally wins one.
And all of a sudden it was like
someone gave him a superpower of
confidence.
And now he's contending for the
championship or the win like every week.
It's it's really cool,
like because it is does show that like
sports side of all that.
Teresa says, I find them cheesy.
I'm guessing love is blind.
Which tracks?
Yeah.
Could be.
She doesn't like drive to survive either.
So the male drama is cheesy.
Cross that says he just got a good
car.
Yeah.
I think it was a confidence thing though.
Cause we can talk about that on the
lunch shows for sure.
But yeah, I,
it was a combination of the two for
sure.
So,
twenty six point two was announced on
Thursday.
It was a eighty foot walking lunge
overhead dumbbell.
Then you went twenty pull ups,
another eighty foot.
Oh, dumbbell snatch, then pull ups.
Sorry, I watched Joseph.
Joseph do that on Saturday.
He skipped the order,
did the wrong order and had to go
back and start over.
So anyway, so the lunge, snatches,
pull-ups, lunge, snatches,
chest-to-bar pull-ups, lunge, snatches,
ring muscle-ups.
Four time.
So, thoughts on the workout?
Originally,
when I watched the announcement,
I thought that the scores weren't going to
be like,
like we're going to get beat like fairly
easy because of how many sets they were
doing.
Like it was like four or five sets.
And even Miriam had,
I don't even know how many she had
there, but then upon studying it,
I was looking closely.
I was like, man,
they were going really fast to begin with
and bought themselves time to break that
many times.
And those scores are still way up there.
Yeah.
Lucy still has the top score.
Does she?
Yeah.
That's what I thought.
Yeah.
So that was a, uh,
so I'd actually said,
I thought those would be top scores.
Carolyn said I was wrong.
I know originally I was like,
there's going to be girls that can do
that and way less set and just slow
down the beginning.
But if you slow down too much,
you almost don't have time to correct.
Like, yeah.
And you're going to be somewhat gassed
regardless.
Right.
You're like, you're not slowing.
Yeah.
You'd either slow down so much that you
were pretty fresh,
but you're too far behind.
That's the thing is people,
if they do slow down so much,
they still are.
Forty seconds behind them getting there.
Yeah.
Even more.
Maybe I moved a whole lot slower than
I expected, says CrossFit.
But it was crazy to watch how fast
Miriam can do those first two rounds.
And then she gets called back and then
just like in two steps,
like overtakes Lucy again.
I'm like, oh, my goodness.
She's so fast.
Teresa says fast lunges.
I thought were the key.
Yeah.
I mean, that's a time under tension thing.
You do not want to be holding that
thing up overhead.
Um,
Jenny said Lucy and another athlete are
tied,
but I think Elena has the tie break.
Caratano or something.
Oh yeah.
Crazy.
After all that work, it's actually a tie.
That is crazy.
So the announcement went off.
Didn't have the glitches we had in week
one.
Went off really well.
Right as of this morning when I was
making the rundown,
they were sitting at seven hundred seventy
five thousand streams.
Last year,
twenty five point two to this date has
seven hundred seventy two thousand.
So it's already three thousand ahead of
that.
I think that's still a good sign.
Hopefully we'll see some more movement on
that.
But the big numbers are already over.
Right.
The live announcement getting through the
weekend.
But just wanted but nowhere near the
reported million on the live stream the
week before.
Yeah.
So just an interesting observation on the
numbers.
Because I thought the matchup was just as
good this week with the women as it
was the week before with the men.
You had three different strategies.
And it almost, like...
Almost worked out for Amy,
who was a little bit slower,
but then just had large sets of ring
muscle ups and kept pretty honest to her
breaks.
And then Lucy was more of just like
steady the whole time.
And then you have a freaking I don't
even know what to call Miriam doing her
lunges and everything.
She's just on fast forward.
Like everything's on fast forward.
Does she have like back to the drive
to survive thing?
Does she have a lower gear?
It just seems like it because she has
this endurance ability to like keep moving
at that speed like she did in twenty
six one.
Does she just put the pedal down and
go until she can't?
She is exciting to watch because she has
love.
She's willing to go for it.
That's the thing.
She has like no fear of blowing up.
Like,
I think you can see it in the
masters athletes.
Like, I mean, Rich has talked about this.
Like there's a point where you're like,
you know how that feels and you just,
you're done.
You're kind of done with it.
And I don't know if it's because she's
still somewhat new or because she believes
she has the endurance,
but she will come out so hot.
I mean, it didn't,
wasn't to her benefit in this one,
but it sounds like she redid the workout.
with the same hotness on her movements and
got seven, fifteen,
like almost shaved off a full minute and
didn't try a different strategy,
was as fast heading to the rings,
just had better sets.
Like she opened up with a five instead
of a three, did a bunch of singles,
but then this time had her boxes there
that she could just kind of do her
single, come down to the box.
single,
but she just buys herself so much time
because she's so fast in the first two
rounds that she can do small sets.
I still think she's got to work on
her ring muscle-ups to get at the elite
level of that movement,
but she's so fast elsewhere that it can
make up for it at this point.
Really impressive.
I think the other impressive thing is Amy
Kringle got much better at muscle-ups
really fast.
Yeah.
I don't remember her being bad.
Well,
I don't think it was – I wouldn't
have said it was her strength,
but she caught up to – and I
would say it was a strength for Lucy,
and she caught up pretty quickly on the
rings.
Yeah,
Lucy's won a lot of bar muscle-up workouts
and then won the water palooza workout
with the rings, like ex-gymnast.
You know Lucy's great at this stuff.
Amy,
I feel like she's gymnast and endurance is
what I,
that's what like comes to my mind when
I think about Amy is like running capacity
engine and.
I still, I view her as gymnast too.
So I feel like that's a good workout
for her as well.
What I'm saying is I would,
when I think of Amy Kringle,
I don't think ring muscle ups.
I think she's great on a bike.
She's great on some other different things
like that.
When I think Lucy Campbell,
vivid memories are her going toe to toe
with Laura Horvat and winning on a ring
muscle up workout.
Like that puts you in the elite,
elite status.
And for Amy to catch her on the
rings and be ahead for a moment going
into the last few reps was impressive to
me.
Yeah.
I agree.
I mean, they made that race exciting.
They made that live announcement extremely
exciting.
Yeah,
everyone had a major part in that
announcement, in the race.
It was fun to watch.
In my mindset watching it,
I didn't even look to the right.
Because Miriam was out so fast and I
knew Lucy was good on the rings and
I was watching those two.
And then all of a sudden you hear
Chase go, Amy's catching up.
And then I finally looked over and it
was like, holy crap.
So I think that's why it stunned me.
And it was a great race.
It was a great race to the end.
I thought the community there was great.
They, they sounded super loud, excited.
I thought it was great too,
that they brought in the games athlete,
I think from last year from Portugal to
still be a part of the announcement in
some fashion.
So that,
that was a nice touch there too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I,
and I loved how they brought the,
for the announcement itself brought the
crowd right in on Dave.
And let them be a part of the
announcement.
That took me back to old school open
announcements.
Not like a perimeter floor or anything
like that, but like, hey,
let's bring this mob of people,
let Dave do the announcement and be all
over him and then back out and let
the people go.
I thought that was awesome.
Yeah.
Did you guys watch Lucy's behind the
scenes?
I have not yet.
I saw her Instagram post or whatever with
the dance little reel that they did right
before they started.
That was cute.
And she was like crying.
I think it was like the day before,
just kind of like getting emotional about
like how cool it is for her to
get this opportunity to do a live
announcement.
And I just thought it was really sweet.
And it's been cool to see her behind
the scenes of the past two weeks.
Like she just started her YouTube channel.
It's just nice to see Eric open up.
Eric Mackey says,
I'm willing to be vulnerable.
And I think that's what the new athlete
needs to understand.
If you want to grow in popularity and
you want to grow in getting appearances
with CrossFit, that's what you have to be.
That's what Dallin and Jason and Justin
have done, and now James.
And then you add Lucy to this mix.
She has skyrocketed in popularity.
One, because she's really damn good.
Two,
because she's really vulnerable and lets
people into everything.
When she was on with Chase on the
Sport of Fitness podcast,
she talked about this being one of those
things, as a CrossFit athlete,
you want to check off your bucket list.
You want to do an open announcement.
and and you could tell in that moment
she wanted it so bad and the fact
that she got one was really really cool
so um do you think that it was
a good test
I think it's a great test.
You're you, when you asking that question,
I think it's an excellent test.
It's a test I like preferably would like
to see in quarterfinals for gyms.
I think it was a nightmare for gyms.
I think,
I think if you want to see ring
muscle ups,
pair it with like an overhead squat or
whatever, even maybe the rig,
but not with lunging.
Like it's,
Very,
you need a very specific gym to be
able to get twenty foot of space and
keep a dumbbell five foot from the space
and have ring rings.
Not everyone has a ring on their rig.
Some people are,
some people lunge under the rig,
which then,
if their rig is in the center,
they could be, yeah.
Like, if you wanted ring muscle-ups,
I don't know,
put it with a barbell and
whatever, like I just,
you are asking for so much floor space
and limiting people to probably like
three, four heats.
It's not necessarily a short workout.
Um,
I did not love it for the open
week.
So can I ask you a question,
a personal question?
Your gym is not set up to do
rig and muscle ups.
Like you have to go across the gym.
to get to the muscle up.
Are you biased because of your setup than
what you're forced to work with?
Or do you think that... No, I think...
And I'm not trying to be rude.
Every other gym I belong to,
the rings are on the rig.
There are sets of rings on the rig.
Okay.
We have one pair on the rig.
We have a pair on the rig too.
But like that also takes...
Everything else is not.
That takes like a spot.
the it's off of the A-beam.
So like it goes like,
I think even for a lot of gyms,
it doesn't make it a good setup.
Like you putting someone on those rings
when somebody is maybe still lunging
through there.
That's insane.
I think it just limits most gyms to
probably like four to six people in a
heat.
And that's tough to do.
I think, I think you make a really,
really good point because I think about
that when people put like certain things
with quarterfinals and having a certain
setup just as an advantage versus actual
fitness.
So pairing something like rings with
something that you can place, like,
you know, like you said, a barbell,
a rope, a box,
something that you can keep in a certain
area by the rings and not be needing
a wall, a rope, like a climbing rope,
not a skipping rope.
But all of those play a role in
the transitions and in people moving their
camera.
Now, if you're using the clock,
that clock can be out of frame.
Videos can get invalidated because now you
don't have a clock because you have to
move to see the rings.
So definitely valid points for the,
for the actual test.
If we take all of those points out,
I thought it was a great test for,
um, people to get their first,
either absolutely pull up chest to bar
ring muscle ups.
I thought, you know,
even the foundations had a good
progression, um,
um the scaled version was great and then
if people wanted to try the rings at
the end now obviously some people have no
business doing rings but that's on the
coaches or judges to even maybe tell them
that like their workouts done get to the
tie break don't eat like that's just like
a responsibility thing if people are doing
rings and they can barely do a chest
of our like right so i want to
ask one more question and then i'll and
then i'll let it be
We have complained that CrossFit needed to
add more gated-type workouts to truly test
for elite athletes but let the beginners
and the community members take part.
That's what this was.
It was a gated workout that started with
pull-ups, went to chest-to-bar,
and then got to the ring muscle-ups so
the elites could show their skills and
move on.
And I do want to give them kudos
because there's been a ton of feedback
from the upper level masters community
that have wanted these types of things in
their workouts and they left them in.
Yeah, they did.
If you were seventy plus and you had
to ring muscle up,
you got to show it off.
Um, so I think while I,
I understand it is tough for affiliates,
it's what we've been asking for,
for the community to have these types of
workouts.
So everybody can show what they,
their skills during the open.
I would just like some consistency with
the distances.
We've gone twenty five last year was
thirty.
Now we're twenty.
Like it's annoying for the gyms to put
these lines on the floor.
Think that like we always have to retape
the floor for like distances.
Yeah,
I thought maybe last year they were
starting to move away from the twenty five
and go to thirty to make it more
affiliate based.
And then for quarterfinals,
maybe twenty five stuff.
Yeah.
more appropriate, but like for the open,
I liked last year, the thirty,
like the fifteen and fifteen.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Like I thought that was better for the
open.
And then as you progress in the season
and it's just maybe a few athletes in
your gym,
then you can go and do the twenty
five feet.
Absolutely.
Distances,
especially if you want to do like shuttle
runs or handstand walk,
even though they did do thirty feet for
handstand walk,
like in the
masters age group sorry not masters
semifinal last year but yeah John George
Sharpie can't be more pleased with the
lack of scaling in upper ages for masters
kudos to CrossFit for listening
Yeah,
I understand the people that have it
wanting to showcase that.
It's a tough one because I feel like
on one hand, to me,
I just would say leave it bar muscle-ups
since that's what we're working with the
rig.
If you're taking up all this floor space
already, just make it bar muscle-ups.
But we would have been bummed we didn't
have ring muscle-ups.
I mean,
I guess I would have rather seen,
like I said,
ring with something else outside of this
and then like pull-ups and chest-to-bars
and bar muscle-ups in some other type of
format workout personally.
But I do like the,
I thought it was cool to pull-up to
chest-to-bar to ring muscle-ups and Boz
somewhere said that he had a big play
in that.
In the open.
And I also saw that Boz is programming
most of the quarterfinals and semifinals,
and then we'll probably let,
or Dave was probably gonna do the games.
So a lot of this workout is I
think Boz from what I saw.
Wayne says, I'm not going to win.
I'm not trying to win.
I really just wanted to point out the
scaling piece of this too.
And both of those things are things that
we have asked CrossFit for.
Gated workouts and less scaling in the
master's division.
And I saw a ton of my master's
friends get their first muscle up,
some of them in their sixties,
getting their first ever muscle up,
which was super cool.
And CrossFit says he coached two first
muscle uppers this weekend alone.
And that is, that is, who were they?
Who'd you coach?
Yeah.
I, and they,
and they allowed you to do ten feet
if you did have space limitations.
I don't know who is going to really
do that.
That's anywhere near competitive though,
because that extra turning is not easy.
But they allowed it.
So, I mean, yeah, they're,
they're trying to listen to affiliates.
David Reed said the weight for fifty five,
fifty nine men was odd.
I do think and I think I'm going
to have some agreement here.
Shoulder mobility and older athletes is a
very limiting factor.
So the fact that they didn't that they
did scale the dumbbell weight down for the
especially for the overhead lunges was
appropriate.
Those are challenging.
It's a challenging movement for people.
Yeah.
Jim masters event.
Do you see shoulder limitations a lot?
Yeah.
Overhead squat.
Yes.
This overhead lunge.
I, Jim would have,
there would have been no way if it
was fifty pound dumbbell that he would
have gotten through it.
He struggled with the thirty five to do
the overhead lunges.
Maybe,
maybe your fifty five year olds can do
it.
Okay.
But you're sixty five plus.
it's just not worth it.
Like you,
you still want it not as a first
movement.
You don't want to be blocking a bunch
of people just for, just for that.
And if the thirty five is too late
for you at fifty five, David, go faster.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, okay.
So, um, that's all that.
There is one thing I did bring this
up on Friday.
I want to bring it up one more
time.
Um, and that is,
I don't know if you guys saw this,
my biggest pet peeve in the world is
I want to start a petition that media
should not be on the floor for this
sport ever.
I don't care if you're broadcast.
I don't care if you're podcast.
I don't care if you're print.
I don't care what.
You should not be on the floor.
There are no media members in an MMA
ring.
There are no media members on a football
field.
There are no media members on a tennis
court.
Mm-hmm.
It's dumb.
It's stupid.
And the fact that this could have been
disastrous with a thirty five pound
dumbbell over her head and this cameraman
could have gotten seriously hurt.
This camera woman.
For what?
What shot was she getting?
No idea.
Yeah, I mean, is she getting Miram over?
Like, I don't even know.
Lenses are good enough these days that you
can go right up.
You can see the whiskers on a face
from a hundred yards away.
It's,
this is just ludicrous and I'm tired of
them blocking the sight lines when you're
there in person.
Agreed.
I hate it.
Lucy stayed real chill though.
She did.
I mean, she was going to plow through.
That's another, that's another athlete.
That's not the same response you get.
Cause Lucy's a pretty.
Yeah.
Common.
Yeah.
The fact that that happened is.
Oh, it makes my blood boil.
I hate it.
I hate the fact that,
and every time I'm at an event now
and there are cameramen from the broadcast
standing dead center in a lane to get
that one shot that is a dumb shot
anyway.
We want threes and twos and fours,
not ones.
And it blocks everybody that paid whatever
they did for tickets from seeing the
event.
Sometimes it's annoying when you're going
for a max lift and you have the
camera right in front of you and you're
trying to focus.
It's okay when you see the stands or
whatever.
The camera sometimes gets so close to your
lifting.
It's like, oh, back away.
Yep.
Andrew Sten says,
imagine if that was Danielle Brandon.
We weren't naming names, Andrew.
But not a bad point.
I've pushed photographers,
cameramen out of the way numerous times.
There we go.
Anyway, Shanna told us on Friday,
she actually got bumped by a judge from
another lane at the games and got no
compensation for that happening,
which is another,
that's another conversation for another
time.
But anyway, and while we're on media,
all these media people that are getting
mystery boxes from CrossFit,
what did you do that we didn't?
We're sad.
I want a CrossFit thing.
I just want a box of socks like
J.U.I.
I would take socks.
Wayne says the worst part,
she was taking a picture of Lucy and
then stepped right in front of her,
not like she didn't know where Lucy was.
I don't think she was taking a picture
of Lucy.
Cause she immediately,
like she was trying to get turned in
front of Lucy.
I think she thought maybe I'm watching it
now.
She's taking pictures of Lucy and then
shoots in front of her to take the
picture.
She does.
She is taking pictures of Lucy.
That makes no sense.
It looked like to me,
like she was turning to get the lane
next to her or somebody further down or
something.
I don't know.
Anyway.
So, so there's that.
And while we're on media,
one last thing I have is all you
masters people, you're spoiled.
And I'm telling you right now,
we're spoiling Dugan is killing it out
there.
Tons of data and data points.
And I know a lot of you are
very, very appreciative of it.
And I love you for that.
But the few of you that are demanding
more, I want to choke you.
She is doing this on her own volition
and putting this out there.
She is killing it.
And if you people saying that the numbers
aren't right on a Saturday have done
CrossFit for more than two years,
you know that only a few people have
submitted their score by then.
To say that she has to document all
of that other stuff in that graph,
ridiculous.
You know better.
You know better that the numbers on
Saturday are not final.
They're not even close to final.
Leave my girl alone.
Yeah.
She's doing way more work than I, I,
I just,
I can't believe she keeps updating those.
We appreciate you, Holly,
but you don't need it.
I like,
I would understand if you did less.
Yeah.
Definitely don't do more people back off
of her.
Week one.
I would have been like, see ya.
Yeah.
And she's still there plugging away.
Cause she's a great person.
She is a much better person than I
am.
But damn it, leave her alone.
She's doing the best she can.
And it's awesome stuff.
The fact that she's giving you guys cut
lines through the weekend of where the
twenty five percentile is,
is something that nobody has ever done for
the Masters community.
Sure.
For them to bitch about how it's done.
Oh, you do it better, people.
You can do it better.
Do it.
I love Holly.
I love that she's part of this team.
I love what she creates.
And be appreciative.
And many of you are.
Many of you are thanking her in the
comments.
Many of you are saying wonderful things.
But there are a handful of you that
we're about to go to the alley.
And give her a follow.
Yeah.
Yes.
Data Wad.
There she is.
She is amazing.
Stop it.
There.
Got that off my chest.
You're supposed to keep my heart rate
down.
I don't think it's happening.
Are you doing this workout?
Going to try.
I have an EKG in the morning.
And after that, I'm going to try.
Are you going to an affiliate?
No, I'm going to film it all here.
And tomorrow is supposed to be sunny
because I can't fit twenty feet in my
garage.
So I got to go out.
You can go ten feet, Scott.
I go to my driveway, too.
Yeah.
It was really nice today.
It got sunnier today, not super warm,
supposed to be.
It was supposed to be seventy,
but now it's a sixty five.
What's it supposed to be there, Scott?
Seventy tomorrow.
It is supposed to be seventy.
Bright sun.
Nice.
Yeah.
Anyway, there's that.
The last thing on media we have here
is all you copycat cat hillers out there.
We don't need everybody in the space
copying what Andrew does.
And if you're going to do it,
make sure you read the rules, please.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's been some that I'm like,
what are we trying to do here?
I don't know.
At least take the judge's course before
you do that.
That's all.
It's only cheating one way.
It's actually a penalty the other.
Okay.
So, yeah, there's that.
You're not wearing hockey pads?
I'm not wearing hockey pads.
I don't know what that is.
Keep doing what you're doing.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, I'm not.
This was not a dig on Hiller.
This was a dig on all the copycats
trying to be Hiller,
but they're not informed enough to do a
good job of it.
Mm-hmm.
I will say like,
I know everyone's just like wants somewhat
less of it.
So it's more inclusive,
but like I saw a post today of
a woman and I think it might've been
a gym owner,
like posting somebody's ring muscle up and
she,
and it was the best post I've read
and how everyone needs to post when
they're posting stuff.
It was the girl doing the ring muscle
up.
She did like
She did a glide kip.
So her feet came up.
She was like, just posted it.
And she said,
this was done after the workout.
No ring muscle ups were submitted.
Like, that's all people are really asking.
Just be clear in your post that, like,
be honest.
Don't just put stuff out there that this
was your score.
This is, you know,
when you clearly are doing something
different or wrong.
i i mean i if people just put
that caveat in their post there'd be like
so much less hate or put scaled if
you're scaled or put foundations if you're
foundations right we talked to carolyn and
i talked about that last week just yep
that's what all people really want check
those other boxes and all of a sudden
it's you're okay yep totally um
So this week, the fittest on earth,
twenty twenty five was released.
Did either of you get a chance to
watch it?
No, it's only on Apple, isn't it?
It's on Apple TV.
Yeah, I don't have that.
I have, you know, I have no.
You don't need an Apple product to watch
Apple TV.
Don't I have to have like an Apple
ID or something to like log into it?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
It's just an app.
Vicky said it's on time now.
Okay.
Then I'll go watch.
There's ways to order it.
It was good.
I liked it.
I like all the CrossFit stuff most of
the time.
I was in it for one second.
I saw myself in the background so I
could tell people I was at the games
during that.
It was proof that I was there.
Yeah, I wanted to get your impressions.
Like I've said,
I'm a very hard grader of these things
because I just want something new, right?
They have the ability to give us something
that like other people can't.
And I felt like there were a lot
of moments in this that were really good,
like little pockets of things that I liked
a lot.
But I thought there were some misses too
because there was a lot of focus on
Tia as this being her last one.
I think she deserved a full documentary of
her own.
And that would have been awesome.
And then the rest of it could have
been focused on the games themselves.
I think Olivia coming back from where she
did to third place was a major story.
And she was interviewed throughout.
So they had her there.
They were talking to her.
It would have been a simple ad to
have her in there.
Her and Danielle's interviews were,
I think,
done afterwards at their own location.
I'm pretty sure Olivia's interview is at
Jacob Heppner's barn.
Danielle's interview is wherever she lives
now.
Nashville?
No, she's in Florida.
Tampa?
Yeah.
Okay.
would like to see more of the athletes
prior to the games and see if like
some stories prior and then kind of blend
it in with the game stuff versus like
event by event um but i mean i
i enjoyed it i like it i thought
the heyday of the documentary was when the
doc came out and the behind the scenes
came out right after
Because the doc gave you the top of
the heap and how it all went.
And then the behind the scenes was all
the other athletes and kind of behind the
scenes of what was going on during that
time.
And I thought together they made one great
product.
And now that all the different behind the
scenes are done separately and apart from
the CrossFit documentary,
I don't think it has the synergy it
used to.
Cause we're getting too much content,
very similar to that prior.
And then it's almost just like a
repetition of what we just saw,
which I would agree.
Exactly.
Um, exactly.
Yeah.
So it almost feels like we're not getting
much new stuff.
Some, some parts were,
were new for me anyways.
Um, but yeah, I, I get that.
Like I thought the pegboard piece was fun
to watch.
I did not know how much was going
on behind the scenes for that.
And I thought that that was a really
great part.
I thought James and Dallin and Jason
sitting in the stands,
get it for the athlete brief.
And their conversation was really fun.
I thought some of this stuff back in
the athlete area was really good.
I'm trying to think of what else.
There was a lot of good stuff in
it,
like probably five or six points where I
was like, oh, that's good.
But there was a lot of like dips
of just regular race stuff in the middle.
That's all.
I'm going to go off topic.
Speaking of behind the scenes,
I've been really liking meme for time,
Roger.
I don't know if you've been watching some
of his behind the scenes,
but he's asking like great questions to
people, different types of questions.
Like it's,
he's been doing a really good job with
his behind the scenes.
I just, just followed his YouTube channel.
He says that he's done a bunch of
stuff before,
but I'm just getting a hold of it
now, but his name is Roderick.
I just, so we get it right.
yeah roger yeah roger did i say it
wrong i thought you said roger but i
maybe no roger roderick i just kind of
yeah put it all together um yeah i've
been liking his stuff i think his uh
his questions are are different than a lot
of the questions that we just typically
see from the behind the scenes yeah he
was
Little known fact,
he was a part of our games coverage
in twenty twenty three.
The year that Lex and Mitch McLuhan and
Raph were a part of it.
He was one of the analysts that came
on to during that.
So I've known him a long time.
He's really he's one of the nicest guys
in the space for sure.
Yeah,
he just did it behind the scenes of
the Proven group doing Fight Gone Bad.
He did it behind the scenes of the
twenty six point one and interviewed all
the athletes there and Boz and Dave.
And yeah, it was really good.
Fergie says in Canadian,
Roderick sounds like Ruga.
Roderick, our first pencil,
pen and Sharpie.
Bring it on.
pencil pen or sharpie wadapalooza's move
to march has hidden them on the crossfit
calendar even though they're a part of the
open pen yeah i'd say pen it has
it's it's lost a little bit it creeped
up and i was like oh my god
they just sent the list today and i
was like oh completely forgot about it i'm
going sharpie
Because I didn't even have it on the
rundown and Carolyn had to remind me that
it was happening this week for me to
remember to put it on the rundown to
talk about.
And for an event to be as epic
as it has been over the last ten
plus years to completely be forgotten on
the calendar,
it boggles the mind a little bit.
I mean,
it's hosting twenty six point three.
So we have been talking about it.
but I think when it was,
I think when it was placed like in
January and there was nothing happening in
the season,
we were like talking about it many weeks
prior, leading up, analyzing the workouts,
all of this, making predictions.
And now it's just kind of hidden within,
um, within the open.
Yeah.
Uh, Penn did pop up quick.
It really did.
Nothing beats Miami in January.
I will tell you this.
Everybody thinks that Miami is hot in
January.
The last two times I went to water
Palooza freezing cold and raining.
And I think it was even worse.
It would have been even worse this year.
They've, they've had a cold winter.
Yeah.
It has not been a fun hangout in,
They'll have good weather.
It was freaking beautiful when I was
there.
It was eighty four.
And they're even another couple hours
south of where you were.
So.
So, yeah.
So we want to look at who is
there.
I have it here in a second.
So.
Here are the elite individuals.
I'll try to blow it up a little
bit.
Let me get rid of the pencil, pen,
and Sharpie.
There we go.
All right.
Let's look at the women first.
They have cut down the field of the
women.
and the men to twenty elite athletes this
year instead of thirty.
Mathilde Garnes, Emma Tall,
Martina Borini, Danny Spiegel,
Ellie Turner, Emily Rolfe, Lucy Campbell,
Astrid Tinn, Mariana Meza,
Hannah Black, Abigail Domet, Eileen Wurz,
Andra Moistus, Lydia Fish, Ariel Lowen,
Perneil Christensen, Elisa Fuliano,
Jess Green, Janie Chevre.
So who do you think has the best
opportunity to come out of this on top?
Lucy.
Lucy.
It's hard not to go against Lucy right
now.
She's looking great.
Even though she's like, oh,
twenty six point one.
Yeah,
it's OK for a score at this point
in the season.
I was like, dude, crushed it.
Yeah, it's hard.
It's hard not to go against Lucy on
this.
Yeah, I have Lucy.
So I went with a dark horse pick
because I knew like Lucy would be the
favorite for sure.
And my dark horse is Elisa Fuliano.
So that's who I have second.
That's who I have second.
Just last year, taking the year off.
She did great in the event she
participated in.
Yep.
Would have qualified for the games
multiple times last year.
Um,
And so, yeah,
I think with the year off,
because she didn't do WFP or the game
season.
Right.
She just did a couple events that she
wanted to.
And so I think she's my dark horse
pick to possibly win if Lucy doesn't.
Yeah, good pick.
I agree.
I'm curious how healthy Emma Tall is at
this point.
Me too.
I don't even have her in my top
five.
Because if she's healthy...
Like she's right up there podium too.
But I just don't know.
She's had a couple injuries last year.
Had an amazing one stop at one of
the tours where she was battling with
Laura.
But other than that, like injuries.
I think the rest are very program
dependent.
Yeah.
I mean,
I think Ariel will probably be your third
podium.
But yeah, Domet.
Oh, go ahead.
It'll be interesting to see how Ellie does
live.
We haven't really seen her.
I mean, she's been gone two years.
I know.
It's such an unknown.
Uh-huh.
My thing with her,
Ariel has never done well at Wadapalooza.
Yeah.
Which is crazy because I find Wadapalooza
is very like cross-fitty type workouts.
Yeah.
And when I think about Ariel,
she's probably one of the most
well-rounded and best coaches
CrossFit-y type athlete.
So I feel like she should do very
well.
So I expect her to be fighting for
that top spot.
Um, I think that, that what,
what a Palooza presents is a lot of
unknown and a lot of unknowable just
because it's outdoor.
You don't know what the heat's going to
be like.
You don't know what the weather's going to
be like,
and you have to be able to adjust
and maybe just maybe working out in your
garage every day where it's the same.
It's your bar.
Your stuff isn't ideal for an event
outdoors at this point in the season.
And I love Ariel.
You guys know, like,
she's one of my favorites.
Yep.
I do think Patrick makes a great point,
too.
And we didn't see her last season,
and she's been teamed the year before
that, was Mathilde Garnes.
Phenomenal athlete.
We could see big things from her this
year, too.
Is she an outgoing team this year?
I don't know.
I haven't really looked into it.
But I know she did the qualifier for
WFP.
Yes.
Yep.
and um and she did this so we'll
see it yeah one one that i wanna
see in person is and i feel like
has been on the
just getting close.
She's good.
And she's crushed the open the last few
years.
And I think last year in the semifinals
has was really close as well.
So I'm just one more year,
just seeing where she's at.
I think she's a brew athlete with coach
L is what I think she is.
I think she could be a little dark
horse too.
um fergie says dylan is awesome too great
guy to hang out with in the stands
dylan is awesome it's awesome i mean this
woman's field is very strong what's going
on lost his audio there's a lot like
There's a lot of games athletes here and
very high semifinal athletes.
Like this is a great field on the
woman's side.
I find the woman's side is stronger,
deeper than the men's side here.
Would you agree?
I don't know if I would agree with
that.
I mean, I think there's ten,
twelve excellent athletes on both sides.
And then there's you're like five,
maybe six that you're like, honestly,
if there had been thirty, not many.
If there had been thirty,
I think there would have been way too
many unknowns.
I'm glad there's only twenty.
Yeah, it's a strong field.
Still trying to get his audio up.
Still trying to get it?
I'm up.
Whoa.
It's like you're in timeout every week.
We're an hour in.
So I heard you guys briefly say the
men and the women.
Your audio seems off a little bit.
No?
Yeah.
I mean, I'll take it.
I'll take it better than nothing.
Well,
Carolyn was saying she thinks the women's
feel is stronger than the men's.
And I don't know that I agree with
that.
I agree with Carolyn.
I think there's twelve great names on both
sides.
It does sound like laptop, Mike.
I switched it.
It should be better.
Oh, you're perfect now.
Yep.
You're great.
Yeah.
I switched it.
I think there's one twelve, I think.
On the men's side,
I who do you have is like a.
I have Austin Hatfield, Ty Jenkins.
Maybe Pat Vellner.
We don't know where he is in his
recovery from everything.
James Sprague.
You said Ty Jenkins.
I did.
I mean, I'm excited to see Ilya here.
I think I just think more and more
competition experience is just only going
to help that guy.
I'm not saying it's not going to be
fun to watch,
but I think of the elite elite.
Max Krieg.
Come on.
No, she said semifinals level athletes.
I didn't hear that part.
He's on the women's side,
and I think there's close to that.
I don't know, maybe eight,
nine on the men's.
It's hard to bet against James on that
men's side.
Yeah, hard on James.
I think I have Ty right now as
second.
I just don't, I haven't, I mean,
I wasn't impressed as much with Austin on
week one of his open,
but it is hard to, it's,
it's hard to judge someone that just
learns a workout too, like,
and does it versus people that get to
study it and do it.
So I'm trying not to put too much
on that,
but I also wasn't as impressed too.
So I was like,
And then Pat didn't have that great of
a week one, like wasn't even close.
And then with his medical stuff.
So I'm just not sure that he's in
prime Pat water Palooza type shape,
but so you never know with him.
Counting it up.
There are ten women that have been to
the games.
Okay.
Six men.
Okay.
Are we talking about individual or team?
Individual.
Okay, Nick Matthews has been there seven.
But, I don't know.
Okay.
But anyway,
so your picks on the men's side,
did you guys make those while I was?
I have Sprague winning.
In the cone of silence.
I think we all have Sprague winning,
right?
Like, this is, I mean,
I will say it's probably an easier,
I don't know.
I can't even come up with a dark
horse against Sprague in this field.
I have ladies.
I have eleven females that have been to
the games individually out of that field.
Garns, Tall, Spiegel, Turner, Rolfe,
Campbell, Meza, Domet.
She was at the games this past year.
I would say there's been way more.
Lydia, Lowen, Fuliano.
I got you now.
Eleven.
I left off.
That's more than half the field has at
least individual games experience.
Yeah,
and I think there are people that could
compete with Lucy on the women's side.
There's nobody that's competing with James
on the men's side.
Yeah,
I have Leahy as second and Koski as
third, personally.
I put Ty and then Bill.
I'd probably flip that.
I think I would go James, Bill, Ty.
yeah and really I'm just rolling dice into
a basket but I'll watch hopefully there's
fun events hopefully we get to see
somebody somebody come out of nowhere
that's what that's what's cool about these
events and what Jamie and I always talk
about there are stories below the top five
top ten who is on their way to
come up who's here to show what they
got and we get that opportunity this
weekend
yeah i think i'm excited to see that
in the in this men's field just because
there's some people that when there's a
lot of guys in there i really like
and i want them to succeed um just
going in i don't i don't see it
yet yeah there is no swimming right no
swimming huh they couldn't get a beach
access there
And there's like a beach run that they
run.
They run into the water.
I think we did that like many,
many years ago,
but it's not an actual swim.
I haven't looked at the workouts like
literally until you said that today.
I forgot it was happening.
Yeah.
Which goes back to our pen pencil.
There's like a row wall ball,
legless rope climb event.
There's like this gross one.
That's like a Cal echo bike or a
soul bike.
I don't know which one they have into
a max clean and jerk like for load.
And then I think there's like three rounds
of it, three or four rounds.
But you have to do the buy-in of
the bike first.
So that's a tough one.
Yeah, I mean, most of it's
All right.
So next thing up, uh,
lo and behold this week,
I was looking at the WFP qualifiers, uh,
just to see who made it.
And I see our partner,
Carolyn Prevo on the list.
I didn't even know she was doing them.
She wasn't going to,
I feel like when they,
when they added the week and changed it
to London, you, I had already done them.
Oh, they were all done.
Yeah.
I had already done them when I was
in Mexico.
And then they switched it.
Ask me what scores Carolyn gets.
This is how she keeps things under the
radar.
Lex told me to do them.
I did them.
So,
so does this mean anything for WFP tour
stop one?
I have not made up my mind yet.
If I'll go,
I don't know how that would work with
my school right now because I compete the
week prior at legends and,
So I'm already missing four consecutive
days for Legends,
which is something I don't like to do
ever.
The only time I ever miss four is
if I would go overseas,
which is like once every few years.
And then maybe I come back to school
Tuesday, Wednesday,
leave after school on Wednesday,
and then miss...
Thursday, Friday,
and the following Monday.
Tough.
And then, yeah.
I just feel for my, like, math student.
So CrossFit kind of asks,
did you think it was London, Ontario?
I wish.
That would be amazing.
I would love that.
I just want to say, like...
I have said for the last couple weeks,
I think you are one of the perfect
candidates to do WFP.
Yeah.
Well,
I want to do Indiana in the summer.
And then the thought process that Lex said
shows there's no point in doing Indiana.
You're wasting your money because...
You're not going to have enough tour
points anyways.
So if you're going to do it,
you have to go do the first one.
You have to do the first one.
I totally agree.
So then I went and did the workouts
for the first one just to see where
I would fall.
And then I think I'm right in the
middle of the, or towards the end anyways,
of the qualifiers.
And so now I have to decide.
Did you put one hundred percent effort
into the qualifiers?
I mean,
I do a hundred percent in any qualifier
and whether if I were to redo,
I'm sure that I would have a better
score because I'll attack it differently,
but I don't do a workout for a
qualifier.
Like, like just going through the motion,
like I'm going to give it my best
of that day.
I know that,
but I'm just letting the audience in on
a little Carolyn Prevo here.
But like, I don't,
I won't say that it's like the open
for me where I try to go a
little harder sometimes.
I love the open.
So,
Anyway,
congratulations on making WFP tour stop
one.
I think you are completely capable of
getting a pro card and getting one of
those is so valuable going into next
season to help fund your entire season.
Because I know as an athlete where you're
at, it's expensive.
And to get any kind of money to
support that is a great thing.
And I think you're a great candidate for
this.
Yeah.
I mean, if I,
if I look at the WFP,
I think it's for athletes at the very
top, easy for them to make, you know,
money.
And then for athletes like me that are
bubble athletes that are on our own dime
every time basically,
and can maybe fight for a spot.
So we'll see.
Yeah.
Well, congratulations.
So that leads us to the next pencil
pen or Sharpie.
And this is the fight that Carolyn and
I had this week.
Can you remember what we were fighting
about?
Oh, I remember.
Pencil pen or Sharpie.
Sarah Sigmund's daughter should have
received a wild card invite to the World
Fitness Project Tour Stop One.
Pencil.
Pencil.
And I say Sharpie.
pencil i mean do if it wasn't if
she wants to be competing then she can
do the qualifier just like carolyn did
like what that makes no sense it's if
it wasn't if it was in iceland give
it like that's that's different like bring
all the daughters before the season
started wfp announced
how they were going to fill their roster
for each tour stop and in that roster
it said we hold five wild card invites
for whoever we would like to invite and
i'm a huge sarah fan like i like
her too she was my favorite when i
started crossfit like the number one but i
think that should go through the qualifier
Here's my argument for why it's good to
invite her.
And I see all the washed.
There is interest to see if she's washed.
Nobody brings more eyes to the table to
see if she is truly washed than Sarah
Sigmund's daughter.
If I'm WFP,
I want as many eyes on my event
as possible.
Then when I get the eyes,
I need to put on a show.
If I get them there to see if
Sarah's washed and they stay for the show,
then I've won viewers and I've moved
forward with my project.
That's why I think they need to invite
her.
She is,
there are fifty spots in this thing.
The games only gets thirty.
Waterpalooza's only doing twenty.
Like,
this is a very deep amount of people
that are being invited to this.
And to spend one of those spots on
a legend to get some eyeballs on the
sport, I think is, should be allowed.
And should be done by a group like
WFP.
Now, if this is a game season,
absolutely not.
This is for the people on this season,
not anybody else.
But for something that is not part of
the big prize season,
it should be allowed to do this and
do it if they want to.
Fergie,
you're arguing something different.
I'm not saying that she is going to
go in there and do well or do
good.
I'm saying she's going to bring eyeballs
to see where she's at.
John George,
they have nothing to lose by inviting your
smart move.
So that's my argument.
I understand where, like,
if this were the games,
I would be totally on board with you
guys.
Or a semifinal.
Like,
I hate that semifinals are inviting people
before the season starts.
This season should be based on this.
Or middle of the season,
as we saw today.
Yeah, at least, well...
That's causing a lot online, though.
Have you seen the back and forths?
I have.
So I have that.
I can pull it up.
So along with this,
and this was our argument during the week,
this took a whole morning of us arguing,
and then we just agreed to disagree.
But...
Then today it was announced that the
French throwdown has invited Roman
Krennikoff to come participate at their
semifinal event.
And the barbell spin made a post showing
that it wasn't in the rule book.
Um, so whoops, I'm on the,
I'm on the wrong thing.
Hold on.
Uh,
I can't get my thing to shrink.
There we go.
I need a producer.
All right.
So I think this was the original post
by barbell spin.
Uh,
there are only two paths to qualify for
the French throwdown top twenty worldwide
on FTD online qualifier or top twenty in
Europe in the quarterfinals.
and this is from the rule book and
then you see that so how did roman
get an invite uh he didn't do the
online qualifier and he isn't from europe
right there was a response to this from
the french throwdown saying you didn't
read the full rule book and then they
posted the full rule saying that it is
their their discretion of who they can
invite to this event
Following that,
I have to go to a different Instagram
post.
Stories.
Yeah.
We have this that was posted.
That is a conversation, I believe,
with the French Throwdown and Moritz
Fiebig.
Because they say, hi, Moritz.
Now, it was posted by Toby Buckland.
So, it's confusing.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
And it says, thank you for reaching out.
We are really happy to hear from you.
We're sorry,
but we won't be offering any invitations
this year in order to be fair with
the ticketing process for the games.
We're confident and hopeful that you'll
secure your spot through the
quarterfinals.
Wishing you the best of luck.
Then on the next story,
Harry Lightfoot posts that, hello,
Heinrich,
the top-twenty men after the quarterfinals
will be invited and the top-twenty from
our qualifiers as well,
but we won't send any wild cards if
that was your question.
So in several communications with
athletes,
they said they were not – and you
can see this all on the barbell spin
–
that they were not doing wild cards this
year.
They say that in the whatever.
They said to athletes that they were not
doing wild cards,
and then they extend a wild card to
Roman, who does not qualify for either.
Who is a Mayhem athlete who Mayhem
program?
So it also looks bad on that part
to me.
Yeah.
Because Mayhem is programming their event,
and you invite a Mayhem athlete as a
special invite.
If you were to invite anyone else,
it's different.
Like a European athlete or something else.
But they wouldn't invite a European
athlete because their European athletes
will be getting in through...
It still doesn't look good when you invite
one of your own.
to your, to your event,
even though it doesn't, it's to me,
to me, I'm allowed to say that,
but I don't like that.
There's programmers that program events
that people follow their tracks.
Like that's just my opinion.
And I don't think that CrossFit's changing
that anytime soon for semifinals.
Um, I, this is what I've been saying,
Eric, I think it needs to be merit-based.
There should not be automatic invites to
semifinals.
What the season should start with the
open.
And then from that point forward,
you qualify for the next steps.
That is the only way to get from
point a to the games.
Yes.
For all semifinals.
Yes.
CrossFit says merit doesn't make money.
Well,
we don't know because we've never had a
consistent season to know if a consistent
season would make money.
No invitations to qualify.
Yeah, I just don't think that, like,
I think it's a new season.
You allow the current athletes who are
performing a chance to get their spots to
semifinals and then to the games.
What you did ten years ago,
What you did last year to me doesn't
matter.
Right.
Like people will accept because I mean,
if you're given the opportunity,
like why wouldn't you accept?
Of course.
But I just don't like the rules.
Yeah, I agree with the law.
It's not about the money.
It's the official CrossFit game season.
Exactly.
uh andrewston i understand the argument
though that early invites allow for
planning by both the athletes and the
events maybe the open needs to be earlier
in the year to avoid this we made
that argument weeks ago that the open
needs to be closer to january first uh
to allow for some more time for everything
else um it's pretty true fact mayhem
operates like sec football they're gonna
love that they're gonna love that
This one here.
Did we dislike it when Rogue was a
qualifier?
Rogue was never a qualifier for the games.
It was at one point in twenty twenty.
I would have gone the spot,
but then they dropped the name CrossFit
and it was not a qualifier.
It was in twenty nineteen,
but that was a different animal
altogether.
That was the sanctional year where
everybody was a qualifier.
There was like thirty some qualifiers.
Twenty nineteen was the year the champions
of each country.
And you had all the sanctionals around the
world that everybody... And then, yeah,
it was the mess.
Talk about Wild West.
I didn't think that was a qualifier.
The year after it was a qualifier.
I was at it.
It was a qualifier.
It was here in Columbus at the Rogue
Factory.
They built a park outside.
Oh, yeah.
Yes.
And the teams did the tug of war.
Correct.
Or build the cart.
Remember I had to build the cart and
then pull it.
Yeah.
Uh, Anderson, I was a judge.
It was a sanctional.
So they had one year.
Yeah, but that was a different animal.
Yeah, and that was sanctionals everywhere,
basically.
There was like twenty of them, right?
There was so many of them,
and only the champion from each one got
a bid to the games,
unless they had qualified previously,
and then it bebopped and bebopped down
through the thing, and, oh,
you took ninth place at Waterpalooza,
you get to go to the games.
It was so horrible to try to figure
out.
But in this current format,
I just think we need more consistency in
the way that athletes are going to the
semifinals.
Like it's crazy to me that people already
have all of our semifinals signed up and
the season hadn't even started for the
open.
All the qualifiers were before the open.
And if you weren't on the ball or
if you weren't in the best shape because
you were still doing your off season,
like you missed out on basically your best
semifinal chance.
i don't like that right yeah i just
i don't like that i think that the
open needs to be number one and then
that's where the start of the season is
and then you get your invites based on
open quarterfinals whatever yep um we're
almost out of time so xenom added more
workouts
I forgot to pull it up before this,
but it is a, it's a crazy one.
It's like a cardio fest.
Let me see if I can get it
quick.
Is it looking more accessible CrossFit or
is it no besides that one event for
the ring muscle up?
Is it pretty accessible?
Um,
maybe I don't like people to do a
power snatch.
I don't, honestly,
I don't care if it's accessible.
I think this is for that next level
down of people that just want to have
an experience like the CrossFit Games and
go do a two-day competition with ten
events and get a score and try to
improve on it time after time.
I think it's just like the marathon
runners, uh,
trying to go to Boston and New York
and all of that kind of stuff.
But regardless, uh,
we have a bunch of events.
We already talked about snatch.
Uh, did we,
we didn't talk about this one, uh,
the wall, walk, rope, climb, wall, walk,
rope, climb, wall, walk, rope, climb.
What's it?
It's an AMRAP.
It is an AMRAP.
So down here.
Does it say how long?
It doesn't have the time.
No.
Yet.
No.
So that's the elite.
It's two wall walks to one rope climb,
four wall walks to two,
six wall walks to three.
Oh,
so it's just going to keep going for
whatever, ten,
twelve minutes and just keep going in that
format.
I like it.
Cool.
Yeah.
And then event three,
it was the Max Cal bike we talked
about.
And then five is the three K run
to the two K echo ski.
And then this one got announced just
recently.
Three rounds, fifteen toes to bar.
No, that's the one that's been out.
That's the sorry.
Triplet workout event.
Eight just got announced.
This is the one.
Thirty burpees over the line.
Rogue Echo Ski for thirty to twenty four
calories.
Rogue Echo Bike thirty twenty four.
Thirty burpees over the line.
Rogue Echo Bike thirty.
Rogue Echo Ski thirty.
Amrap of burpees in the remaining time.
Twelve minute Amrap.
Fun.
That one's accessible.
So that's what we know so far.
Still excited?
Yeah, I think it's cool.
Carolyn?
Yeah, something new.
I like the idea of having like ten
standardized CrossFit-ish tests that
people can test themselves all over the
world in person,
not at their home affiliate,
but like in person on a weekend or
ten events and perform versus like at
different points in the year doing one of
them.
I think that's a good thing.
I just don't know how popular it'll be.
If it gets too difficult, I guess,
in some of it.
Because you still want to attract some
people from the F-Forty-Fives to be like,
you think you're fit?
Try these ten.
And then tell them to come to CrossFit
to get better at it.
So they do have the three levels.
And I guess the elite level is very,
very small.
Like it's only going to be a handful
of people in the elite.
And then the RX is below that.
And then the compete is where most of
the people will be.
And that is the lowest of the three
levels.
Is the compete level still a snatch?
It's probably,
I don't think it changes what it is.
So the one rep max snatch,
it's the same, same thing.
But like the snatch total bar muscle up
for the compete is toes to ring.
Fifteen single R dumbbell hang snatch into
ten toes to bar,
ten chest to bar max bar muscle ups.
Cool.
So they do have those versions.
Again,
I listened to Peter's interview with the
founder, and it was really, really good.
I think Savant's having him on this week,
so hopefully we'll learn more.
But I think it's pretty cool.
I think it's...
What he said on Peter's was he wants
to have something that CrossFitters can
brag about again.
Like, I did this,
and I got this score...
So Vicky asks,
will either of the ladies be trying it
out?
I put my name to try to get
like, oh,
they said like two hundred and fifty
people get a free sign up or something.
I mean, I signed up for that.
I don't know that I would pay the
five hundred right now.
I have too many comps coming up.
So yeah, won't do the first one.
I'd like to see what it looks like.
And then maybe later.
Eric Mackey says not enough prize purses
to pull in more notable names.
I don't think they're trying to pull in
notable names.
I think they're trying to pull in the
community.
They're trying to be the CrossFit version
of a High Rocks or a Tough Mudder
or one of those things where a group
of people all show up and hang out
for the weekend and do fun stuff together.
Yeah, I'd have to see the other locations.
I for sure wouldn't be going to Dallas.
Yeah.
I'm sure there's going to be a California
and a New York.
Maybe Chicago.
I would consider that.
Everybody's dogging on the name.
I don't really care about the name.
I like my name.
If it becomes cool,
the name will be fine.
It's like Phenom.
It's Phenom Ten Events.
It's great.
I think it'll get catchy.
um judy reed says wasn't xenon some girl
superhero xena was a girl she was a
warrior yeah but she was it was not
xenon xena lucy lawless right yes you got
it oh i remember from i i like
that show
CrossFit says it's copy and paste regional
fantasy camp.
But I do think it's different.
And it all depends on the vibes it
gives when you're there.
All of the talk and all of the
paper is fine.
You have to see it executed.
I think the only way it stays like
relevant,
it has to be the same events every
year.
Like keep those,
like whatever ten that they come up with,
those are the ten that every year that's
the test.
And I love the scoring.
The scoring is not dependent on anybody
else.
It is,
they have a par score and either you
go better than par or worse than par.
And that's how you get your score.
You didn't know that, Jamie?
No.
No.
So it's not where you place,
it's how you perform.
So there's like a chart that will say,
if you score in these areas,
you get this many points.
And they have set a standard score for
every event.
Oh, geez.
What's the standard for the snatch?
None of that is enough.
Let's say it's three hundred and three
fifteen and two, I don't know,
two five or two fifteen.
And you're either under it or you're
hitting it.
Oh, geez.
But the same thing is you could do
the burpee, I don't know, the burpee,
bike, and whatever,
and be better than the standard, right?
It's all about trying to get your score
around par or better than par,
depending on what you're trying to
achieve.
Interesting.
Xenom side effects include rapid
heartbeat, fatigue, and muscle soreness.
Please consult your doctor before using.
Provided the baseline is based on good
data.
I'm telling you, whoever this founder is,
he's a smart dude.
Listen to him talk.
We'll see.
And what I do love is they are
partnering with CrossFit.
This is not something competing with
CrossFit.
They're doing it in conjunction with,
and they talk about CrossFit the entire
time.
Uh, sneakily,
it's like choosing where you go to take
your SATs standardized fitness test.
Just choose your city.
That is a really, really good point.
So there's that something else happened
this week.
I don't know if you guys heard,
but the CEO decided to step down from
CrossFit dawn fall.
His last day was Friday.
He is no longer the CEO.
I have given my opinion on this on
the lunch show.
Just wanted to give you guys an
opportunity to say anything here if you
would like.
Hope that everything's okay with him or
family.
Because to me, if it's this short notice,
to me it screams like there's got to
be some sort of family emergency or
personal emergency of some sort.
where it had to be urgent.
So I hope everything's okay.
All the interactions I've had with him
were awesome.
Super nice guy.
So wish him the best moving forward.
And curious what CrossFit will do in the
next little while to try to fill that
role.
Just what the direction's going to be.
It's very interesting timing.
It does not seem like a,
just a letting go position.
It doesn't seem like the right time to
do it.
Unless they're just trying, I don't know,
trying to get less attention right here in
the middle of the open.
But business-wise, I think it seems weird.
It does seem like it's a personal family
issue, which sucks if that's the case.
But I also think they need to get
someone else in there, so...
be curious where they go uh theresa says
she loves carolyn she doesn't care about
you and i jamie but she loves carolyn
um i said it this week if you
want to see my full rant you can
go there but it doesn't matter at this
point as long as it's a private equity
company and there's a board of directors
the ceo doesn't matter yeah the board
makes the decisions the ceo is the the
face and he carries out the instructions
from the board
As long as we are under Berkshire and
their board of directors, the same,
it's not,
it's going to be business as usual with
a new face telling us what the news
is.
The only way it makes a difference is
if the CEO they hire can be more
convincing to the board to change things
up.
All we can do is present to them
ideas and hope that they vote yes.
And if he's a better presenter and more
able to, yes, more persuasive,
that's the only way this changes.
Yeah.
Or the board says the next CEO we're
having, we're hiring is so good.
We're giving them an autonomy and we're
stepping back.
But that will never happen.
That will not happen.
That's not happening.
That's what needs to happen.
You're not wrong, but no chance.
So at this, like I'm over the CEO,
whatever, because it doesn't matter.
Yeah, I agree with you.
Right.
And so Patrick says that they will bring
in a CEO that adds value to CrossFit
so they can immediately sell.
The problem is they're going to bring in
somebody that they think can value the way
they want value brought.
And
That hasn't worked for six years.
They have screwed the pooch for six years,
adding value to CrossFit.
So unless they themselves, the board,
have a change of heart,
we're still going down the same path with
the same board of directors,
regardless of who they put as the
front-facing piece to this.
And...
Until that sale happens and there's a new
either board of directors at the helm or
a single buyer that takes over,
we are in the same cycle we have
been in for six years.
Yeah.
So that's that.
The last pencil pen or Sharpie was done.
Stepping down is a good thing for
CrossFit.
You just heard my opinion.
I don't think it matters.
I don't think it even,
I don't even need to get any kind
of writing utensil out because it doesn't
matter.
And Fergie saying enough of these tech
CEOs,
bring in someone that knows how to run
a health and fitness company.
But even if they do that and the
board of directors tells them what to do,
what good does it do to bring in
someone like that?
That's what I was ranting about last week
is you can bring in your Daniel Chaffee,
your Matt Souzas, whoever you want to.
None of it matters if the board of
directors doesn't let them do what they
think is right.
So...
CrossFit says we skipped my second good
SEC.
I'm sorry.
There's so many comments, CrossFit.
I didn't even see it.
I missed it.
I'm sorry.
We're getting too popular on Sunday nights
that I can't read all the comments.
Okay.
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I'll pull it up, CrossFab.
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CrossFit.
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than any other school.
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